How To Calculate If 2h Or Dw Dmg Is More Nostalrius
Re: Theorycraft Calculating frostbolt damage exactly by Puny » Thu Mar 24, 2016 11:26 am Youfie wrote: From what I remember from Nostalrius Beta and all, when Devs discussed fairly often with players the scripts and sources to be used, 24 innate resistance was the value used, i.e. 2% average mitigation per level, 6% versus a Boss. Guide Defence Penetration vs Critical Damage (Also 2H vs DW) Discussion IMPORTANT: I deleted this Thread because is about Patch 5.5, it's obsolete, A LOT OF THINGS HAS CHANGED and I also used a lot of approximations so it's not precise or correct anymore. Ice Crash - 2H vs Dual Wield ( RT) WITH RT Unable to calculate the dps difference dual wield vs 2H when it comes to this skill. Where is the break even point where one is better than the other dw vs 2h. Domine Non Es Dignus. Last edited by Zinja on Nov 25, 2015, 8:49:17 AM. Ok, so you gain roughly 50% of damage from each flurry using DW compared to 2H, to make DW flurry 2H flurry you would need to hit twice + as many times and get twice + as many flurries: 3.5 2H = 17 hits a minute.
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How To Calculate If 2h Or Dw Dmg Is More Nostalrius 3
WITH RT Unable to calculate the dps difference dual wield vs 2H when it comes to this skill. I have a 409 pdps axe and have been playing with the idea of dual wielding it. what kind of bonuses of the offhand weapon apply to the total damage? What would be better in terms of dps on the off hand 1. Soul Taker 2. Doryani and why? Note : Since the dps is only calculated on the main hand .. The tool tip values are conflicting showing the doryani with a higher dps than a axe similar to soul taker dps. Between the setup above lets say i get a soul taker on the off hand the effective dps ought to be 400 from main hand and bonuses from the off hand.. How does it compare to the average 500-600 pdps 2h weapon? (average 2h mace, disfavor ) where is the break even point where one is better than the other dw vs 2h Domine Non Es Dignus | Posted by on Nov 25, 2015, 6:56:21 AM |
Hi, Nice Axe you have there:) Depends on tree but i'd say running this axe + Soul taker and hatred + Hoi (or HoT + auto curse) + HoA is more dps then just hatred + somthing. | Posted by lapilesos on Nov 25, 2015, 9:30:37 AM |
dual weilding doesnt simply add the weapons dmg it alternates the weapons and gives you some offensive bonuses. There may be a couple of skills that combine weapons, http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Dual_wielding heres a build by fiqst tends to make good builds may be of some help https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1304051 | Posted by Fhark on Nov 25, 2015, 10:31:46 AM |
Im looking for some math to see which would give a better damage output and which is better . Fhark Ive read up on the wiki and a lot of threads on the forums. 1. A majority of the dual wield seem to rely on a stat stick for the off hand. 2. There supposedly seems to be something inherently wrong with the tool tip DPS calculation when dual wielding for this skill ( I am still trying to find the official post from GGG on this and if a fix had been or will be implemented) 3. from my own observations i did verify that the skill only uses the main hand damage. The math I am looking for is to find the break even where the fast DW weapons vs slow 2H damage meet and where one becomes better than the other. ( on this i had a marohi and my 400 pdps axe both of similar pdps and i found my axe giving more damage.. which is why i am looking to find how the math works with damage scaling and damage modifiers ) | Posted by on Nov 25, 2015, 5:32:29 PM |
Im not really big on the maths side of poe, certainly many people pursue the bouns of the off hand eg binos gives insane life regen soul taker uses no mana from the wiki on ice crash http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Ice_Crash Dual Wielding: When Dual Wielding, only the main hand weapon is used. Left hand can hold a weapon with other benefits than damage, such as Ungil's Gauche (but you already know this). Last edited by Fhark on Nov 26, 2015, 12:29:20 AM | Posted by Fhark on Nov 26, 2015, 12:25:36 AM |
when you dual-wield you get the following bonus: 10% more Attack Speed while Dual Wielding 15% additional Block Chance while Dual Wielding 20% more Attack Physical Damage while Dual Wielding as a stat stick you could use something like http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Lavianga%27s_Wisdom but for raw damage: as the dual-wield bonus are both 'more' your weapon could be seen as: 1.48 aps -> * 1.1 = 1.628 (205 + 346) / 2 = 275.5 (average damage) 275.5 * 1.2 = 330.6 total: 330.6 * 1.628 = 538.2 so while using ice-crash your 1h axe would compare to a around 540 pdps 2h axe, but with 15% base block and you can get more extra stuff from the off-hand weapon, like aoe and area damage in my example link above, or no mana costs (soul taker) Last edited by storzi on Nov 27, 2015, 5:32:58 PM | Posted by on Nov 27, 2015, 5:31:50 PM |
^ that is helpful. The no mana thing allows us to go nuts on speed thereby increasing dps. | Posted by on Nov 28, 2015, 6:13:59 AM |